Bigger Tires on 4Runner? (Cutting & Trimming)
Common Cutting & Trimming on a 5th Gen 4Runner
Ideas on what to cut, chop and remove to fit bigger tires on your 5th Gen 4Runner (34″ Tires)
We are talking about:
- Trimming the 4Runner Body
- Trimming Plastic Valance Caps (Rocker Panel End-Caps)
- Body Mount Chop (BMC)
- Remove Splash Guards (Rear Fender Trimming)
- Push in Fender Liners
- Trimming 4Runner Fender Liners
Recently, we wrote an overview of wheel size. In that post, we slightly explained what the largest tire size was, that you can fit on a stock 4Runner. We also talked about going a step further with bigger tires and lift kits and leveling kits.
In this post, we covered tire size, tire specs, wheel sizes and how they work with tire sizes, and much more.
Bigger tires with a lift kit or leveling kit?
If you are looking to swap out your factory 31″ tires with 33″ or 34″ tires, this overview is for you. We have the 285/75R17’s (33.8″) on our 2014 TEP and had lots trimming to prevent rubbing.
To run 34’s on your 4Runner, you need at least a 3″ suspension lift and even with that, you will need to do serious trimming to your 4Runner’s body, plastic valance caps, body mount, and the splash guards.
We wouldn’t trust 2″ leveling kit or 2″ suspension kit with 34’s. They are pretty big compared to factory tires.
We have trimmed the 4Runner’s body, plastic valance caps, body mount chop, removed both splash guards (rear wheel well liners) and pushed up the front plastic portion of the wheel well liners. And, it was still rubbing. The main problem you are going to see is with the front fender liners, they need to be cut and pushed back quite a bit.
Every time we go out, we have done a little more trimming each time.
Eventually, we are going to throw some strut shims up front .25″ stacked on both sides. And, then install a new 3″ overland spring in the read to replace our icon stage 2 suspension lift 2″ spring. This should help give us clearance but at the end of the day will likley cause more rubbing somewhere else.
Trimming 4Runner Body
This is a pretty interesting mod. One of the first mods that had us rethinking this whole goal. We have to trim the actual 4Runner body. Anyway, we did it and it was not that big of a deal. Just get it over with. You will be much happier with 34″ tires than that missing piece of 4Runner.
Trimming the 4Runner body is important for a couple reasons. To start, if you do not trim your 4Runner’s body, you will have an unproportioned look on the wheel well. Also, not trimming your 4Runner’s body will eventually lead to slight rubbing when your wheels are at full flex and wheel lock (when your tires are fully turned, driver or passenger).
Trimming Plastic Valance Caps (Rocker Panel Caps)
Rocker Panel Caps After – And, they were still Rubbing at flex
You will need to trim your plastic valance caps. Some people call them Rocker Panel Caps, and some people call them valance caps. Either way, you will need to trim these pieces of plastic that interfere with your larger tires.
This took a few attempts to get right. We started small and then ended up cutting as much off as we could, without being able to notice the cuts from the outside.
Body Mount Chop (BMC)
This one goes without saying. You will absolutely need to chop your body mounts. Toyota extends the housing around the body mounts into the wheel well quite a bit. Most of this housing is just wasted space. You can take quite a bit of this housing off and give yourself plenty of extra space in the wheel well.
Companies like Metal Tech 4×4 have body mount chop kits, but any reputable 4×4 shop should be able to cut them apart and then cap them. If you don’t know how to weld, then you should probably take this to a shop that can do it for you. The cost is pretty cheap ($100-$200), and any good shop should have a body mount chop done in a couple hours.
Remove Splash Guards (Rear Fender Trimming)
Yeah, it doesn’t look good, does it? So, this was my first lesson in letting someone else chop my body mounts. If you see the Sawzall marks just above the body mounts, that was a clumsy guy, who will never touch this 4Runner again. Not a very big deal, just pretty annoying. Everything else is about how it will look after some serious trimming.
The splash guards and rear fender liner are located in the rear housing of the 4Runner wheel well. These look like your front fender liners. Some 4Runner’s might have the actual mud splash guards. If you have these mud splash guards, you should just take these off.
The inner fender liners on the rear wheel well are thick plastic pieces of plastic that prevent mud, dirt, and grime from hitting your inner body. But, the inner body of the 4Runner is well-protected how it is. So, removing these plastic pieces is not that big of a deal.
Push in Fender Liners & Trim
Fender Liner Step #1 – Pushing the Fender Liners Back
The front fender liners will take quite a bit of adjusting. To start, you need to locate the hole that your 10mm bolt is going through your body and up into the fender liner. You want to take loosen that 10mm bolt and push back your fender liner as much as possible. Literally, push the fender liner towards the front-end of your 4Runner. Once you are not able to push any further, mark the spot on your fender liner with a white sharpie (or something you can see on black), through the h0le in your 4Runner body (where the two met).
After you have marked your spot, let the fender liner out again. Using a plastic drill bit, drill a hole in your marked spot. Use a bit that is less than the width of your 10mm bolt for your bolt to feed through and catch on. After you have the hole punched, tighten everything up.
Note: There are two bolts that go through the body and into the fender liner, You may need to drill two holes for both bolts that secure the body to the fender liner.
Fender Liner Step #2 – Cutting unwanted section from front well Liner
After you have your new spots located, and mounted, you should start driving around and see if it is rubbing. After doing this, our 34″ tires were still rubbing.
Steps for trimming your fender liners:
- Back out of your driveway and lock your wheels passenger or driver, you will start to hear rubbing.
- If your driveway doesn’t work, drive around and find a spot where your tires start rubbing.
- As soon as you start to hear your tires rubbing, stop.
- Get out and mark the location on the fender liner.
- Pull back into your garage and cut off 1″ or more of that section.
- Repeat these steps until you don’t hear rubbing anymore.
We had to cut off a good six inches of fender liner before we stopped hearing our tires rub. After dealing with a couple months of our tires rubbing, we then moved to another inch our Icon Stage 2 Suspension Lift.
Pinch Welds on 5th Gen 4Runner (Hammer or Bends or Cut?)
It really depends on how bad your tires rub with this area. We thought we solved all our rubbing problems, but then we added the wheel spacers. After the spacers, we started rubbing more on the fender liners and these pinch welds.
There is one area of the pinch weld that sticks out a little further than the rest of pinch-weld area (top image circled). In the top image, you can see the portion that I “bent”. I just grabbed two pairs of vice grips/ clamps and peeled it back. If I am still rubbing at flex, I will probably go back in and bend both sides all the way back in towards each other or outside of each depending on how the tire is rolling past it. I would not slam this with a hammer or cut it off until I have to.