Icon Stage 2 Vs. Stock 5th Gen 4Runner Suspension

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Ride Quality on the Icon Stage 2 Vs. Stock Suspension

We received a question from a 4Runner owner with KDSS asking about the difference between the Icon Stage 2 suspension and stock shocks. After several months of testing the Icon’s digressive suspension, we can provide some realistic expectations.

We recently tackled the Baltic Ridge Trail with the new Icons and 34″ Toyo tires, so the timing of this question was perfect.

The only downside we experienced is with Icon’s customer service. While they make a great product, it’s difficult to get anyone on the phone. When you spend over $3000 on a product, you’d expect better accessibility. Eventually, we stopped calling Icon directly and started reaching out to YotaMafia instead.

What’s The Difference Between Stock & Icon Suspension?

Really enjoying your site! I’m a newbie to any 4×4 vehicle mods and I have a question about the Icon Stage 2 suspension for 4Runner with KDSS. What was the ride like after install compared to stock? My stock suspension is shot on my 2012 Trail Edition 4Runner and rather than have the dealer install another set of stock shocks I’m considering the Icon’s. My 4Runner is mainly used on dirt roads around New Mexico with a good amount of highway miles as well.

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Icon Stage 2 Ride Quality

Icon Stage 2 Suspension - Worth It for 4Runner Owners?

Upgrading from stock suspension to Icons brings noticeable benefits, though there are some trade-offs depending on your preference. Overall, the advantages of the Icon suspension far outweigh any downsides.

On-road, the difference is immediately apparent. With Icons or any digressively valved suspension, the ride is tighter and firmer compared to stock. Some drivers appreciate the stiffer feel, while others may find it less comfortable. Digressively valved suspensions are known for their firmness, while progressively valved systems like King or OME BP51 tend to offer a more plush and loose ride. With the Icons, expect less body roll, tighter cornering, and a more responsive overall feel. Additionally, braking performance improves as the harsh nose dive typical with stock suspension is nearly eliminated.

Pros

  • Stiffer than stock
  • Cornering is great
  • Less body roll
  • Less nose dive

Cons

  • Feel all the little bumps
  • Can be too stiff sometimes

Freeway

Freeway driving is much better. At high speeds and big drops, the icon definitely performs. Freeway driving with the Icons is smooth and incredibly responsive. Because the suspension is tighter, your lane shifting, braking, and feeling of the road are much more responsive. Lane changing is smooth and tight. Braking is quick and responsive (given you have good brakes) with less nose dive and the feeling of the actual road is much smoother at high speeds.

Around Town

The only downside I see is around town while at low speeds you can feel more of the road. It’s like driving an AMG Benz. It’s just tight and you can feel everything. Keep in mind, I am referencing a KDSS package that is already tighter all the way around but if you buy a set of digressively valved shocks, expect to feel all the little bumps. Large, medium, and small bumps, you feel it all. Around town at low speeds and medium speed, you just feel more of the road. But, the Icons also remove much of the existing body roll so it is a win in my opinion.

Off-Road

While off-road, the big dips, whoops, and washouts are butter.

The suspension does what it’s supposed to, and works as advertised for the most part. This suspension performed well at high-speeds on/off-road and low-speeds off-road.

Off-road, the Icons are obviously much better than stock. If you buy the extended travel kit, you will see an increase in shock travel which is one of the main reasons you buy a kit like this; more shock travel. The shocks do their job in soaking up the compression and rebound hits very well. On every trail you hit, there is going to be some erosion, washouts, dips, and ruts. Whether you come to these sections at low speed or high speed, the digressively valved piston makes it feel smooth and buttery instead of tight and uncomfortable with factory suspension. When you hit these sections in a stock suspension, however, you and your passenger jump up in your seat.

Icon Stage 2 Vs. Other Stages

Here is another question we got on the Icons

Message: Hi, I was reading through your website on ideas for my 4Runner which is currently stock. I have a question in regards to the stage 2 icon lifts you use. Why did you choose the stage 2 as oppose to stage 3, 4, and so forth? Aside from costs, would you say that a higher stage would be better? Thanks for your help. I love this site! So helpful.

The choice between Stage 1 and Stage 2 Icon suspensions largely comes down to budget and desired travel. Stage 2, with its extended travel coilovers, is the best value for quality aftermarket suspension. The extended travel and UCAs are the key upgrades, offering better articulation and performance.

Other stages, with beefier components like billet UCAs, may provide additional durability, but in my experience, they don’t offer a significant performance improvement. The billet UCAs, while strong, seem more about aesthetics, and don’t necessarily justify the extra cost.

Remote reservoirs enhance ride quality, especially off-road at speed, by improving heat dissipation, allowing the shocks to handle tougher, longer trails. If you’re tackling long, rough trails, remote reservoirs are worth considering. For shorter, slower trails, standard extended travel shocks will suffice.

Upgrading stages increases strength, control, and durability, but if you’re not pushing your 4Runner on extreme trails, Stage 2 should be more than enough. Just be sure to assess your needs carefully to avoid overspending on features you won’t fully utilize.

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Mason Nawai DeCosta
Mason Nawai DeCosta
3 years ago

The only difference with the UCA is the adjustability with the billet you can adjust more and tubular has no adjustment.

EZR
EZR
4 years ago

Nice post. Good intel. 👍

Danny
Danny
4 years ago

I have a stock 2012 sr5. If I upgrade to a stage 2, can I run my stock wheel/tire size? From what I can tell, it’s a yes. But wanted your input. Thanks!

Potter
5 years ago

Great site, just have to figure out how to spread out these mods so I don’t get Divorced. So nice to read clearly outlined information on a 4×4 site. Please keep the posts coming.

Erich Schultz
Erich Schultz
5 years ago

I am looking for a lift, and am considering the Icon Stage 2. My off-roading consists of twisting old logging and mining roads, most with mile after mile of washboard. Even with the tires aired down, the stock suspension on my 2018 TRD Pro does ok, but not great and likes to swing the rear end out anytime I am above 15 to 20 mph. How would an Icon 2.0 handle washboard, or is there a better system for that.

Zane
Zane
5 years ago

I have a 2018 TRD Off-Road. All OEM currently. I want to buy suspension first but I’m fairly new to the off-road mod game. I’m thinking of just buying TRD suspension as it seems like a good first step. But what I’m not clear on is if it will give me enough lift to run 32in tires. Anyone have any input on the subject?

Colin
Colin
5 years ago

Does KDSS limit how high you can go with the adjustable suspension (0-3.5”),
Thx.

jacob Huang
jacob Huang
5 years ago

Does 2018 4runner have an installed mechanic recommended in Los Angeles?

I would like to ask a better mechanic to install this kit for me.

Nick
Nick
5 years ago

I have a stage 2 on my 5th gen and seem to get a lot of, for lack of a better word “squeaking”. Just driving and going over grooved pavement I can hear. It sounds like the sound you get when you torque a screw really tight. Have you experienced this or heard this?

Stephen
Stephen
6 years ago

Question(s), I am considering the Stage 2 Icon for my 2018 TRD Off-Road (No-KDDS), will I need to get any other options that doesn’t come with the ICON 0-3.5″ Lift Kit Stage 2 Tubular UCAs for 2010-2018 Toyota 4Runner on bilstenlifts web-site? Like a Differential Drop? Or any other options to add? I’m going to be using it mostly around town 98% of the year. Or is this a over kill for my needs? Would like to run 285/70/17 with my stock TRD PRO Rims. Reason I’m asking you is that you mentioned it is hard to get a hold of anyone with ICON. Thanks, Stephen

Jonathan Friedman
Jonathan Friedman
6 years ago
Reply to  Brenan Greene

I have a 2016 Trail non KDSS. I want to obviously upgrade. I have the icon 1 and 2 in mind. Will be doing 98% highway/city driving. Will these be great options for highway? And are their other options other than ICON that will provide a better ride than stock. I don’t want cheap but I highly doubt I will be rock crawling.
Desire:
Better all around drive
Eliminate nose dive and wobbliness.
Firmer drive
Lift between 1.5- 2.75.

Jay Hemphill
7 years ago

Thanks for writing this and for the fast reply. I ordered the Stage 2 setup today(11-20)! Cant wait to hit the mountains after the install! Your site is going to hurt my bank account! But hey, if I wasn’t dumping extra cash into my 4Runner it’d be going into camera lenses.

Sylvester Stewart
Sylvester Stewart
5 years ago
Reply to  Jay Hemphill

I heard that! Just do both!!!

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